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SwingMan
12-24-2007, 10:18 PM
Unlikely to be a friendly affair (http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/1224suns1225.html)
Suns' matchup today vs. Lakers

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There likely won't be much Christmas cheer tomorrow between the Suns and Lakers.

Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Dec. 24, 2007 09:05 PM

Tomorrow's Suns-Lakers matchup is the most appealing among tomorrow's three Christmas Day NBA games, but not just because their coaches verbally sparred in November or because they are separated by two games in the Pacific Division standings.

Those were just the teams' gifts to ABC, which has the Suns playing on Christmas for the first time in 11 years. The rivalry has turned in the Suns' favor after years as the West's bridesmaid, with the Lakers getting the ring.

"It's really good and that's why it should be a great game," Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said. "Neither team loves each other for all the wars we've been through."
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The animosity did not start last month, but it sure did intensify when the Lakers spoiled the Suns' home opener with a 119-98 rout. The game's low point came when the Lakers led by 33 with 4:45 remaining and coach Phil Jackson doubled up on a D'Antoni timeout by calling his own. Jackson later said it was to avoid an upcoming television timeout and compared the finish to a "mercy killing."

D'Antoni was infuriated, shouting at the Lakers bench, "That's OK. We'll play three more times."

"My video guy was kind enough to leave that on tape this morning so we could view his demonstration after the timeout," Jackson told Los Angeles reporters Monday.

D'Antoni already was miffed before that Nov. 2 loss when he was relayed Jackson's comment that the Suns' window of championship opportunity was "closing real fast." The in-game incident had him boiling into the postgame.

"I thought he disrespected our players, but he likes to play the mind games," D'Antoni said then. "That's fine. He might want to try to do it in playoff time when we bust them every time."

The waters did not calm any when Jackson said D'Antoni was not "thinking straight" and that D'Antoni's "immediate response is to think it was about him and not about his team."

D'Antoni has not wanted to engage Jackson by revisiting the war of words.

"He likes to play those little games," said D'Antoni, who joked to Suns employees before the 2006 playoffs that he was reading Zen for Dummies. "Bottom line, we didn't play well and we were embarrassed and reacted to two straight timeouts. They're too good of a team to mess with him."

The disdain goes back the past two postseasons, when the teams faced off in the first round. The Suns sat out Steve Nash and Raja Bell for the 2006 finale to set up a playoff pairing with the Lakers rather than Sacramento. The Suns wound up having to fight out of a 3-1 hole to win the series.

Intensity escalated when Kwame Brown knocked down Boris Diaw and straddled him. It rose even more when Bell clotheslined Kobe Bryant.

Jack McCallum's book, :07 Seconds or Less, revealed more Suns coaches' criticisms of the Lakers behind closed doors, from calling Brown "awful" to calling Jackson "The Penguin."

"I love it," ABC analyst Jeff Van Gundy said of the coaches' contempt. "It's great. The only true rivalries occur in the playoffs when teams see each other numerous times. It's just natural when you play against teams over and over again, there's going to be generated dislike. It's a great subplot."

More than anything, Phoenix could use its first consecutive wins since Dec. 7.

"It's going to be a huge game," Suns center Amaré Stoudemire said. "We're definitely looking forward to it because of what happened here in Phoenix.

"We're ready."

Notes

The NBA's new Nash commercial will debut tomorrow.

• With 19 more minutes played, Phoenix's Shawn Marion will pass Dick Van Arsdale and trail only Alvan Adams' club record of 27,203. Marion is at 24,244.

• Nash is 14 assists shy of Lakers great Jerry West, who is 23rd on the all-time list.

Today's game

Suns at Lakers

When: 3 p.m.
Where: Staples Center, Los Angeles.
TV/radio: Channel 15/KTAR-AM (620).

Los Angeles update: The Lakers (17-10) won Sunday at New York when Kobe Bryant became the youngest NBA player to reach 20,000 points with a 39-point game. The Lakers have won eight of their past 10, and 20-year-old Andrew Bynum is having a breakout season, averaging 11.9 points, 10 rebounds and 2.1 blocks per game. Their bench, led by Jordan Farmar, has become one of the NBA's best.

SwingMan
12-24-2007, 10:31 PM
Hill, family thriving in Valley (http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/1224hill1225.html)

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Grant Hill and his family weighed all their options before deciding to move to the Valley. Hill says it was worth it, and not just the basketball aspect.

Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Dec. 24, 2007 08:30 PM

The mother of two with the angelic voice already had held a morning meeting with Santa Claus and would be shopping for presents in the afternoon.

Her husband was slated to compact his tall frame at a cafeteria table for the chicken fajita lunch with their older daughter's kindergarten class.

But at this point, the couple convened cozily on the couch - 5-year-old Myla was at school - along with resting 4-month-old Lael and Sweetie, the family's Maltese. The husband and wife talked about life, love, laughs and lessons when she noticed that they both were wearing jeans with silver shirts.
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"I got dressed before you," she said.

"I wore this to take Myla to school," he retorted in the first of a few playful debates, such as how she saw his eyes slightly open - though he didn't offer to get up - when Lael cried in the middle of the night.

More glamorous days often are the norm for the Valley's newest celebrity couple, as Grant Hill is enjoying a career renaissance with the Suns and Tamia maintains her career as a Grammy-nominated songstress with four albums.

The real glamour is in their everyday romance. It is a bond forged out of a 1996 blind date arranged by Anita Baker. It is a bond strengthened by helping each other through scares and recoveries caused by his life-threatening staph infection after one of five ankle surgeries and her multiple sclerosis diagnosis.

They put the "power" in power couple. Grant took charge of his basketball career, passing on residential roots, better money and deeper bonds to join the Suns for what has proved to be the right situation. Tamia took charge of her music career, starting her own label, Plus 1 Music Group, and working more than ever to run it.

Less than six months ago, Grant said, "Maybe we should move," to Tamia after they had bought their "forever" home in Orlando, where he played for the Magic from 2000 to 2007. The Hills have barely stopped moving since then. He signed with the Suns in July and bought their Paradise Valley home with Tamia's approval by video because she carried Lael until August.

"The one thing all of this - the surgeries, moving, everything - has really taught us is to be open to change," Tamia said, with Grant adding, "I've noticed people move here and don't move back."

A perfect start

Their bliss began with a leap of faith. Tamia was merely a fan of Baker when the multi-platinum star approached her at the Soul Train Music Awards and blurted, "I have the perfect guy for you."

Baker told her about Grant, who had met Baker at a Pistons game and had begun playing tennis with Baker's husband.

Tamia had grown up in Detroit's neighboring city, Windsor, Ontario, but lived in California at the time. She did not meet Grant for another six months, when Tamia ran into Grant's friends at a Los Angeles talent show.

"Anita put him in my conscience," Tamia said, as Grant gave Baker credit for lending him credibility.

"It was love at first sight," Grant said, but not before embellishing that Tamia saw his billboard in Detroit and wanted to meet him, to which Tamia said, "Oh, I don't think so. You wish I did."

The Hills married in Michigan in July 1999, a year before his sign-and-trade move for a $93 million deal with Orlando.

"Anita has since told me to stop telling that story," Tamia said. "All her friends call up and say, 'What about me? Do you have any more of those?' "

Tamia sang at their wedding, but she can offer no help or hope for Grant's voice, which Myla mocks on the morning car rides to school.

"I try to help him, but it's not there," Tamia said.

"If she was really good, she'd be able to help me," Grant countered. "I could help her with her basketball game."

But when he lost his ability to play, she could only help him through it. A series of left-ankle surgeries stemmed from playing on an injured ankle in the 2000 playoffs with Detroit. A March 2003 operation to realign his left heel led to a staph infection, 104-degree fever and convulsions a week later that threatened his life.

He recovered. Five months later, Tamia was diagnosed with MS.

"It's almost the same in mind," Tamia said. "You get the sudden news, and then there's a road you have to take to deal with it and get yourself better. I think you are always concerned for someone other than yourself. When you love someone and see them going through something, you want to fight for them - sometimes, more than yourself."

It infuriated her to hear the perceptions and criticisms that came Hill's way in Orlando, where he missed 374 of a possible 574 games in seven seasons with the Magic.

She saw him sitting in ice buckets in the backyard, swimming like he was trying to cross the ocean and turning family vacations into rehabilitations. Even a close confidant made a veiled suggestion that Hill see a psychologist.

Simultaneous battles

"A change was needed, because all of that emotion was there in Orlando," said Hill, who was booed unmercifully and lambasted as a greedy traitor in his return to Orlando last month with the Suns. "It made me feel like I was responsible. I was wrong. I was the problem. That was always the undertone. You've got your employer looking at you like 'Are you going to quit?' and even asking you at various times to go ahead and retire."

But how could he stop fighting when he saw his wife take on MS so strongly and not miss a beat in her career? Her MS is "relapsing remising," and remains mysterious to them but has caused no physical trouble other than occasional fatigue.

"With mine, there are scars and crutches and reminders of it," Grant said. "With her, because she's so busy and active, I forget about it. She doesn't complain about it."

In fact, there are times that Tamia wishes she had not announced the diagnosis two years ago.

"I'm sick of being defined by it," she said. "I don't want to be a lifelong MS-er. I've done so much more in my career and in my life, that to be defined by three words - she has MS - irritates me sometimes. I have days where I'm glad I did when I meet people my age on the road who have MS as well. I take pride that they can see someone staying positive and healthy."

Grant's return sends an equally uplifting message. Several NBA veterans talk about how easy and rational it would have been for Grant to walk away. He had the money. He had attempted numerous comebacks. He had screws and zipper scars in an ankle that he would need to play with his daughters.

Retirement was one of this summer's options, but he chose Phoenix over Detroit. He has a two-year, $3.8 million contract with a second-year player option. No front office can claim a deal with more bang for the buck. Hill, 35, is averaging 16.0 points on 50 percent shooting with 4.6 rebounds and 3.6 assists per game.

"The idea of picking up and going elsewhere was like, 'Well, is it really worth it?' " he said. "But it has been, and not just basketball."

Tamia raves about how inclusive the organization has been for families, joining the team for camp and road trips and how players can visit the arena's kids room before, during and after games.

Hill is a doting dad to the point that Myla cried when she saw a pool safety commercial showing Dad playing with other kids and when he tossed T-shirts at the Tucson scrimmage to other kids. But Hill, the son of former NFL running back Calvin Hill, cringes about tales of being a superdad because he takes care of his kids. Like Chris Rock said, "You're supposed to."

He drives Myla to school at 7 a.m. but also tries to sleep through Lael's cries at 3 a.m.

"I'm tired," said Grant, whom Tamia finds taking midday naps near her in-house office. "I play 35 minutes a night. I need my rest."

Grant had never played with a true point guard until he was paired with Suns teammate Steve Nash this season. Even though Nash might help Hill complete a career resume that includes a college title, Olympic gold medal, All-Star Games, commercials and signature shoes, Nash is not even the Canadian whom Hill appreciates most.

Tamia is his MVP.

Together, the Hills survive and thrive.

AmareIsGod
12-24-2007, 10:59 PM
Grant Hill is an amazing basketball player and an amazing human being. I'm proud to cheer for him on and off the court. He is a role model in the truest sense and I with athletes would try to emulate his class and professionalism. Keep doing what you're doing Mr. Hill. In one year, you are quickly becoming one of my favorite Suns to don a uniform. I wish you the best in your newfound career as a Sun. I hope you win a championship here and you can retire with peace of mind. You deserve it.

JackArse
12-24-2007, 11:34 PM
that is an awesome article on hill. one thing about this organization, always keeping the character guys around. it's amazing how much he's progressed in his play since he got here. it's like he just gets more and more confident in himself and the ankles.

JediSkywalker
12-24-2007, 11:42 PM
I love Grant Hill. Not only is he fun to watch on the basketball court, he always looks so professional. I think he really helps the team, on and off the court.

DrSublime
12-24-2007, 11:57 PM
"That's fine. He might want to try to do it in playoff time when we bust them every time."

hahahah~ !!!!!!!!

Shabazz
12-25-2007, 01:45 AM
I think what's impressed me most about Hill's game has been decision making. The guy only averages 1.5 turnovers a game and I'd bet that half of those come on charging calls as opposed to sloppy passes, travels and the like. He really never makes a bad play with the ball.

Definitely becoming one of my favorite Suns and I'm happy to see that that feeling is pretty widespread.

Mori_Chu
12-25-2007, 04:36 AM
G Hill is the man. When I do find myself thinking that we might win a title this year, I think it's possible because of Hill. He has single-handedly made us have a solid mid-range game and a much more solid half-court offense. He's also just generally savvy on D, a great veteran presence, a leader, a calming influence in the locker room ... I could go on and on. He's worked on his game at 35, even adding a very respectable corner 3-point shot. The guy even shoots the technical freethrows when Nash isn't in the game. What more could he possibly be doing?

sunsdotcom
12-25-2007, 05:55 AM
i'm currently watching the suns toronto game, and i like diaw's aggressiveness in that game.

ShelC
12-25-2007, 07:43 AM
Stop, we're not allowed to like Boris.

JustWinBaby
12-25-2007, 10:28 AM
i'm currently watching the suns toronto game, and i like diaw's aggressiveness in that game.

What year was that game you watching played?

Early 2005 or 2006 in the Spring?

JP
12-25-2007, 10:52 AM
Merry Christmas guys!! I have not been on here since last season. Good to be back. Anyway last time I was on the board it was a split half and half. Half the people on here wanted Hill and the other half was hating on him. I am glad to see after his good start that we are all glad to have him in Phx!! GO SUNS!! BEAT LA!!

cap
12-25-2007, 01:50 PM
The thread title made me LOL.