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SwingMan
12-09-2007, 05:00 AM
Timberwolves halt Suns' streak (http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/1208sunsonline1209.html)

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The Timberwolves' Marko Jaric attempts to steal the ball from the Suns' Steve Nash during the first quarter Saturday in Minneapolis.

Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Dec. 8, 2007 10:29 PM

MINNEAPOLIS - Directly outside Minnesota's locker room at Target Center, a portrait shows teammates' hands clenched around the wrist of an arm extended with a No. 1 finger upward.

The worst team in the NBA must have been inspired by the photo Saturday as the Timberwolves stunned the Suns 100-93.

Interestingly, the team in the portrait is the Suns. The tattoos on the ascending hand belong to Amaré Stoudemire.
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The Suns lost a shot at the franchise's fifth five-game road sweep in the same building where their 17-game win streak ended last season.

Instead of Kevin Garnett inflicting the damage, as he did in January, the man Minnesota (3-15) acquired from Boston for him - 22-year-old Al Jefferson - became the only Timberwolves player besides Garnett to notch at least 30 points and 20 rebounds. He had 32 points and 20 rebounds to outdo Stoudemire, who had 16 points and five rebounds after averaging 30.5 points and 9.8 rebounds in the trip's previous four wins.

After a week of incredible offense, the Suns' scoring binge failed them in a 13-point fourth quarter - a season low for any Suns quarter. Phoenix missed nine of its last 10 shots, with many falling short.

"It just seemed like we got into a funk and we're yelling," Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said. "Mentally, when you are losing like that, you start losing it a bit with the refs and with the other players. We just lost the feeling of the game."

It is hard to blame the loss on a lack of energy when Phoenix found the defensive wherewithal to keep Minnesota to 13 fourth-quarter points. Until then, the league's seventh-worst offense had managed to score 87 in three quarters. Minnesota had 17 second-chance points in the first half, outrebonding Phoenix 55-33.

The Suns still led 56-55 at halftime, with Steve Nash recording 10 of his game-high 15 assists, continuing his career-best playmaking stretch. He is averaging 16.3 assists to 2.3 turnovers in the past six games.

"We couldn't get over the hump physically and mentally," Nash said. "Just being as tired as we were I knew it was going to be tough, and we never got that spark . . . I can wash this one away a little easier than other nights. Just felt like we didn't get quite the effort we needed."

The Suns trailed for the game's final 20 minutes, scoring 17 in that time on five-of-25 shooting. Nash and Raja Bell went seven of 24 for the game.

"It was hard to maintain energy," Bell said. "It was coming in short spurts."

There was no huge third quarter like at Toronto (45) and Washington (40) in the previous two games. After scoring 16 in the first half, Suns guard Leandro Barbosa had one second-half point.

"It'll keep us up late," Suns forward Grant Hill said. "In April, we'll probably be thinking, 'Man, I wish we could have that Minnesota game back.' You're upset but it's not indicative of where we are."

View from press row

Just when Steve Nash injected energy into his team with eight points in a fourth-quarter stretch of 2:13, the Suns went flat. Just as Brian Skinner went out, the Timberwolves had two trips on which they got two offensive rebounds. It was like winning time of possession in football. It made Phoenix cold, especially with Nash arguing that he was fouled on a jumper in between the sets of Minnesota extra chances.

Cheers

Steve Nash did not shoot well, but the career-best assist tear stays alive. In the past six games, Nash has 98 assists to 14 turnovers.

Jeers

The Suns seemed content with a close lead, like they knew they would turn it on eventually. Not this time. They went scoreless for six critical fourth-quarter minutes.

Player of the game

Minnesota's Al Jefferson scored 32 points and had 20 rebounds.

SwingMan
12-09-2007, 05:06 AM
(The latest from Paul Coro's blog)

Hungry like the T-wolf (http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/12233)

On the worst of Phoenix Suns nights, maybe you'd like to hear the best line out of the Minnesota Timberwolves' locker room.

After a win vaulted Minnesota's record to 3-15, Timberwolves guard Marko Jaric said, "This was the biggest win of the season."

Oh, really. Let's not give the guy too much slack. He is dating supermodel Adriana Lima.

Well, there was plenty of crummy to go around for Phoenix. But Minnesota's Al Jefferson was really good. He was too much for Amare Stoudemire's defense and stepped out and hit key fourth-quarter jumpers when Brian Skinner defended him.

"We knew we couldn't give a team like Phoenix more than one shot," Jefferson said after Minnesota's 55-33 rebounding edge. Phoenix is last in the league in rebounding percentage.

Defensively, the Timberwolves were doing a good enough job of staying on shooters while still making life more difficult on Steve Nash in the middle of the floor in the second half.

Minnesota was in the game because the Suns not only could not stop Jefferson but let Craig Smith dominate inside too. The pair had 32 in the first half, more than Phoenix's starting lineup had at that stage. The Suns weren't close to their best and that's not going to be good enough when so many teams are putting Phoenix in the cross-eyes of their lost seasons.

"Before we went out to play, I knew the guys were ready to play," said Minnesota interim coach Jerry Sichting, replacing Randy Wittman for the third game due to Wittman's back surgery. "That's the thing Phoenix has to face a lot."

Still, the Suns missed tons of jumpers in that disastrous final 20 minutes. The lead was down to four at one point when neither team could score for three minutes of the fourth quarter.

Amare Stoudemire said they might have been tired. Shawn Marion said maybe fatigue sat in. Nash said they were tired, sick and banged up. Time to go home.

"We didn't have a good energy about us tonight," Suns guard Raja Bell said. "They wanted it pretty bad. We kind of got them rolling and gave them a sense they could beat us and they did. Once you do that, let a young team with a lot of energy believe and start feeling good about themselves, anything could happen. We couldn't summon the energy we needed to get over the hump."

ShelC
12-09-2007, 10:47 AM
Forget it....but dont forget it.

Mori_Chu
12-09-2007, 01:27 PM
How is that cross-eyed hyena dating Adriana Lima? No wonder she never smiles in her modeling photos...

AlanS
12-09-2007, 07:47 PM
Just when Steve Nash injected energy into his team with eight points in a fourth-quarter stretch of 2:13, the Suns went flat. Just as Brian Skinner went out, the Timberwolves had two trips on which they got two offensive rebounds. It was like winning time of possession in football.

That point about time of possession was exactly what I was thinking, watching the game.

Here's hoping Skinner sees a few more minutes for the Heat game. Skinner's line vs Minny: 16 minutes, 2/5 FGs, 4 pts, 9 rebs (3 off), 4 blks, 1 steal, and 3 TOs.

JackArse
12-09-2007, 09:38 PM
Paul Coro

Suns' Sarver still banking on Vegas

If Suns Managing Partner Robert Sarver's original plan had come to fruition, there would be no famed foam finger.

After all, how could a team owner wave the No. 1 finger for an expansion franchise in Las Vegas that surely would have lost as much as the Suns win?

Sarver and Steve Kerr, once an intermediary to Sarver and now his Suns general manager and franchise partner, met with NBA Commissioner David Stern in 2004 to talk about Sarver's intent to get a team in Las Vegas and own it.

Although Stern steered him toward purchasing the Suns instead, Sarver is still working on the first part of the Las Vegas idea.

Sarver is chairman of the NBA owners' Las Vegas Committee, a group that will spend the next year or two exploring the feasibility of having a team in Las Vegas by relocation or expansion.

The description of Las Vegas sounds like Phoenix before professional sports flooded our city. Las Vegas' population is booming, with similar demographics. It is second only to Norfolk, Va., as the largest metropolitan area without a major-league sports team.

The committee has hired consultants to look into the issues of the gaming laws, economic viability and arena issues.

"The prospect of having a NBA team in Las Vegas is getting better," Sarver said.

A franchise seeking to relocate to Las Vegas could apply to play temporarily at Thomas and Mack Center, but a more modern arena is needed for long-term survival, according to Sarver.

He said it looks like Harrah's has a plan to build a $500 million, 20,000-seat arena behind the Bally's and Paris hotel-casinos by 2010. There is also a plan backed by Mayor Oscar Goodman to put an arena district in downtown Las Vegas with tax breaks.

Sarver said the backlash of a high number of arrests during February's All-Star weekend is irrelevant to landing a franchise in Las Vegas. He said the confluence of All-Star weekend events with Chinese New Year and a convention attracted an overflow of people to the city, causing the trouble.

Sarver said there are 40 new Las Vegas Strip hotels being constructed at a cost of about $20 billion, an amount that is more than the worth of the existing strip.

"You'd have to put it up there with Macao, Shanghai and Dubai in terms of entertainment money being spent," Sarver said.

The entertainment capital is also home to much of Sarver's capital. His primary business is as Chief Executive Officer of Western Alliance Bancorp, which is headquartered in Las Vegas and consumes about 70 percent of his work time.

The Suns account for another 20 percent, "But that's fun," he said.

so.. what do you think that means?

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12-09-2007, 11:37 PM
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zara_drummer
12-10-2007, 12:42 AM
so.. what do you think that means?

It means that Sarver has been the one spear heading the idea of a franchise in Vegas all this time, wich is not suprising considering his connections there...

What it means to the Suns?? Nothing IMO. Since Sarver took over this team, he's had the local sports market in the palm of his hand...I dont see that changing for a while unless the D-backs and the Cards get REALLY REALLY good...But even then....The Suns franchise has alot of deep rooted history here where as the other teams dont.

I'm wondering if the league will allow a current team owner to own a second team?? Its pretty much a conflict of interest considering how involved the owner is with the team.

Maybe if he were a very minority partner and agreed that he would have no say over personel decisions but how could you expect even a part owner of a franchise to keep his nose out of the day-to-day operations of an investment.

I dont think an NBA team in Vegas will thrive...I am probably wrong, but if it were me, I'd keep it as far away from the strip as I could...use the NBA to develope some of the really crappy parts of Vegas instead of concentrating on a WAY over developed area.

Velo
12-10-2007, 01:28 AM
Las Vegas Suns!




. . . boo ! !

zara_drummer
12-10-2007, 01:47 AM
With the large contingent of Laker fans in Vegas, I dont think the Suns would do well...Seems like whenever we have a pre-season game against them its like the Lakers home away from home.

fixxxer
12-10-2007, 02:21 AM
At the very least, 20 teams will have to relocate before the NBA even thinks of thinking of moving the Suns.

Velo
12-10-2007, 11:48 AM
as of 06, seattle has the 15th largest metro area in the nation. however, the commish isn't blocking the impending move to Oklahoma.

phoenix, with the 13th largest metro area doesn't even sell out 18 thousand seats a night. the arena is dead because of the latte sipping fans... i'm worried that a more basketball-hungry town will lure $arver away with promises of mega-profits and a higher tech arena...

welcome your Las Vegas $uns!

SpecialSauce
12-10-2007, 01:42 PM
Doesn't sell out? They've sold out every game for like 2 straight years doofus

Squeege63
12-10-2007, 01:46 PM
as of 06, seattle has the 15th largest metro area in the nation. however, the commish isn't blocking the impending move to Oklahoma.

phoenix, with the 13th largest metro area doesn't even sell out 18 thousand seats a night. the arena is dead because of the latte sipping fans... i'm worried that a more basketball-hungry town will lure $arver away with promises of mega-profits and a higher tech arena...

welcome your Las Vegas $uns!

There is a difference between selling the tickets and having people show up to the games. The tickets are being sold, but for whatever reason (i can't say this for truth since I am not in AZ) people may not be taking advantage of their tickets.

Edit: It happens in every sport, at every level.

jed
12-10-2007, 02:07 PM
Discussing whether the Suns will leave for Vegas or not is a total and utter waste of time. Phx has shown its willingness to support its NBA team to an impressive profit.

misteradiant
12-10-2007, 02:13 PM
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/1017suns1017.html

scosuns
12-10-2007, 04:31 PM
Thats good. And I knew we were selling out. Isn't it like 82 or 83 now?

Velo
12-10-2007, 10:28 PM
hey all i know is that when i go to games i'm surprised by the amount of empty seats there are at the arena. if they are selling out that's great and i'm just being paranoid.

and saucy, dont call me a doofus, thanks.