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SwingMan
12-05-2007, 02:05 AM
Suns finish strong against Pacers (http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/1204sunsonline1205.html)

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Suns center Amaré Stoudemire pumps his fist after hitting a basket late in the fourth quarter against the Indiana Pacers in Indianapolis on Tuesday. The Suns defeated the Pacers 121-117.

Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Dec. 4, 2007 10:50 PM

INDIANAPOLIS - Only a team that has led the NBA in scoring for three seasons can go into a halftime locker room with players' heads bowed, bracing themselves for a tongue-lashing after scoring 69 points.

Only a team that has 177 wins in the past three seasons can have a postgame locker room as quiet as the snowfall outside Tuesday night after it had just rallied with an 8-0 finish in the final 71 seconds, lifting the Suns past the Pacers 121-117.

"We had a game that we could've possibly put to rest almost at halftime, and all of a sudden we're losing by four or five there at the end," Suns guard Steve Nash said. "It's just a relief that we made the plays down the stretch and got the stops when it counted - but not a gratifying win."

These are the Suns that fans know and love. They are able to thrill and kill in the same breath. They built repeated big leads carefully Tuesday, only to watch them fall in a hurry like dominoes.

The only steady things about the Suns were Amaré Stoudemire's scoring and Nash's playmaking. Stoudemire set season highs for points (42) and assists (four) and tied a season best for rebounds (13), and Nash delivered a season-best 17 assists on a night that the Suns assisted 38 of their 45 baskets.

The pair scored the Suns' final 10 points, overcoming a 117-113 Indiana lead with 1:15 to go with key baskets and by finally bringing defensive intensity for five consecutive stops, including two Indiana air balls.

Nash gave the Suns a 118-117 lead with a transition three-pointer with 41.6 seconds to go. With the same lead and the shot clock winding down, Nash found Stoudemire for a jump shot that kissed the front rim and fell in for a 120-117 lead with 6.5 seconds to go.

"It's called a shooter's touch," Stoudemire said.

Stoudemire had plenty of energy Tuesday night, driving hard to the basket and rising high to finish or rebound. Pacers center Jermaine O'Neal gave it right back to him at the other end, scoring 30 points, but Stoudemire's mix of power inside and precision outside never left. He made 15 of 24 shots and made 12 of 13 free throws.

"The team did a great job of playing Phoenix Suns basketball," Stoudemire said. "Any given night, players are allowed to go off. Tonight was my night.

"Sometimes, we're a little too confident because teams fight back, and we know that we can get the win. . . . We've got to find that killer instinct. We've got a nice group of guys, but sometimes we've got to get hard-core."

Phoenix's lead went from 66-51 to 69-64 in the first half's final 2:58. In the third quarter, the Suns opened the lead to 12, and it was cut to six. It returned to 12 but fell to two after Nash took a knee to his thigh and left the game. He returned and played the final 14 minutes.

It was 98-90 a few seconds into the fourth quarter, but then the Pacers took control and led for most of the final nine minutes.

"We just weren't really sharp all game," Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said.

The danger grew when Stoudemire drew a fifth foul with 6:14 to go, the Suns trailing 104-103 and O'Neal playing well.

The Suns sent double teams at O'Neal, who did not score in the final five minutes.

Report

Cheers

Being assessed five fouls for the sixth time in the past 10 games might sound like a reason to jeer Amaré Stoudemire, but he is cheered for avoiding his first disqualification in the final 6 minutes, 14 seconds.

Jeers

To Boris Diaw's third consecutive game of minimal impact.

Player of the game

Stoudemire had season highs in points (42), rebounds (13, tie) and assists (four).

View from press row

Indianans are losing their religion. If you don't understand how much the game is worshipped here, note that the Pacers' introduction video shows them playing in a church with a choir singing. But the locals might be staying away because of some recent off-court incidents. For the Suns' only visit this season, the announced crowd was 11,435. It's sad to see a great building like Conseco Fieldhouse feel so dead.

- Paul Coro

Wednesday's game

Suns at Raptors

When: 5 p.m.
Where: Air Canada Centre, Toronto.
TV/radio: My 45/KTAR-AM (620).

Toronto update: The Raptors (10-8) were off Tuesday after Monday's 98-79 home victory against Charlotte. Chris Bosh (groin strain), Andrea Bargnani (left knee hyperextension) and T.J. Ford (thumb strain) did not play Monday. Bosh has been out three games. The Raptors are 0-6 against Phoenix since Steve Nash joined the Suns.

SwingMan
12-05-2007, 02:20 AM
Suns show some late grit (http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/1204sunsnb1205.html)

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Steve Nash celebrates after scoring against the Indiana Pacers in Indianapolis on Tuesday.The Suns defeated the Pacers 121-117.

Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Dec. 4, 2007 10:53 PM

INDIANAPOLIS - After center Amaré Stoudemire made the Suns' biggest shot in Tuesday's victory against the Pacers, a jumper that gave Phoenix a 120-117 lead with 6.5 seconds to go, he and teammate Steve Nash looked choreographed as each turned upcourt with a right fist clenched excitedly.

It was a rare display of emotion from what has been a mostly stoic team.

But with the scare of blowing a big lead and facing deficits of five and four points against the Pacers, the Suns found some fire and an emotional charge during the late rally.
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"That was great to see guys come together," Stoudemire said. "We didn't really have any controversy yet this season like that. That was big for us. Me, as a player, I appreciate it. I love the game. I love my job. It makes it fun when your whole team is playing together."

Nash lamented the blown leads but liked the determination, even if it was nearly too late.

"I don't know where it was for 20 minutes," Nash said.

Diogu awaits return

Pacers fans are two to three weeks away from seeing the return of Pacers forward Ike Diogu, who tore a calf muscle in practice Nov. 6.

Before his injury, Diogu had scored in double figures in three consecutive games.

"I'd say due to the time and how well things were going, it was pretty tough," said the former Arizona State star, who only recently was able to discard his walking boot.

Diogu said his trade to Indiana last season made him feel like he had been "given up on" by Golden State, but he appreciated that the Pacers had plans for him.

"That was the opportunity I was looking for that wasn't present in the other place," he said.

D-League Suns

Suns General Manager Steve Kerr said he plans to have rookies Alando Tucker and D.J. Strawberry exchange stints of two to three weeks with Albuquerque, Phoenix's Development League affiliate. Both could be with the team for the holidays, and the schedule was set up for Strawberry to be with the team Friday at Washington and for Tucker to rejoin the Suns for a Jan. 22 game at Milwaukee.

Tucker scored 25 points in his Albuquerque debut Saturday.

"He was lost early but made the adjustment and was very aggressive," said Kerr, who visited the team Tuesday while on a college scouting trip.

Free throw

The Pacers had Jeff Foster listed in its starting lineup sheet but instead started Shawne Williams.

INFORMER
12-05-2007, 06:07 AM
According to a source close to Varejao, he has signed an offer sheet with the Charlotte Bobcats worth $11.3 million over the next two seasons with an option for a third season that could make the deal worth $17.4 million. The Cavs have not received the offer sheet, but team sources said they probably will match the offer on the restricted free agent.

That's a freakin' bargain. Good deal for the Cavs. Finally some salary sanity.

Wormwood
12-05-2007, 06:46 AM
That's a freakin' bargain. Good deal for the Cavs. Finally some salary sanity.


Good news for us. Varejao and Marion both have Dan Fegan as an agent. Fegan is reviled by owners for his hyper-aggressive negotiations, and this hold out by Varejao was basically an uber-power play by Fegan. If Varjao got more than the mid-level exception it would have been catastrophic, since it would re-baseline what players are worth, and a lot of greedy players would dump their current agents and gone to Fegan, giving him way too much power... Eventually, it probably would have collapsed the CBA...

So, what's it mean to us? It means no one else will be forking out 20 million for Shawn. If we offer a 6 and 72, he'd probably be wise to take it.

Mori_Chu
12-05-2007, 09:33 AM
6/72? In 6 years, they'll be wheeling him around in a nursing home. How about 4 years...

misteradiant
12-05-2007, 11:01 AM
i just want to point my finger at everyone who has said we ought to trade amare and laugh derisively at you.

42 points. 13 rebounds. 4 assists. the best though was him playing over 6 minutes with 5 fouls and hitting desperately-needed shots, shutting down defensively and generally being a clutch player who made no mistakes.

Superbone
12-05-2007, 11:49 AM
i just want to point my finger at everyone who has said we ought to trade amare and laugh derisively at you.

42 points. 13 rebounds. 4 assists. the best though was him playing over 6 minutes with 5 fouls and hitting desperately-needed shots, shutting down defensively and generally being a clutch player who made no mistakes.

Yeah, but Dust will tell you it was only one game...

And where are all the people that said we'd be 9-11 or whatever 20 games into the season. It's not looking like it, you naysayers you. (I'm looking at you Worm. And there were many others as well.)

7ft300lbs
12-05-2007, 12:00 PM
Hey, I think the Suns ought to take a flyer with a minimum contract for Demetris Nichols. How could another long shooter hurt the Suns. I'd love to see him, Tucker and DJ all playing in the D-L.

OE
12-05-2007, 12:52 PM
i just want to point my finger at everyone who has said we ought to trade amare and laugh derisively at you.

42 points. 13 rebounds. 4 assists. the best though was him playing over 6 minutes with 5 fouls and hitting desperately-needed shots, shutting down defensively and generally being a clutch player who made no mistakes.

I claim temporary insanity. I've always been a big supporter of Amare. He is my favorite player. At the time, his pace was bothering me; I was worried about his knees; I was tired of having no interior D; I couldn't see any other way to get a decent center (which I still think we need, albeit in back-up form).

I throw myself on the mercy of the court.

That said, the pugnacious tone of this board of late has been palpable. Could we please recognize that we are all fans, and that the vast majority of us are quite knowledgeable when it comes to the game of basketball? Cordiality and respect lay the foundation for community.

JackArse
12-05-2007, 12:56 PM
I claim temporary insanity. I've always been a big supporter of Amare. He is my favorite player. At the time, his pace was bothering me; I was worried about his knees; I was tired of having no interior D; I couldn't see any other way to get a decent center (which I still think we need, albeit in back-up form).

I throw myself on the mercy of the court.

That said, the pugnacious tone of this board of late has been palpable. Could we please recognize that we are all fans, and that the vast majority of us are quite knowledgeable when it comes to the game of basketball? Cordiality and respect lay the foundation for community.

too.. many. big.. words..

*head asplode*

misteradiant
12-05-2007, 01:47 PM
and how about him running the floor with steve for those saying he doesn't? i only caught the 2nd half but i remember at least once where he was first down the floor and caught a pass from nash for points like cop donuts....

dunked.

and what about his free throw shooting last night? 12 of 13! he's shooting 80% for the season.

and so forth...

Steveskg
12-05-2007, 02:08 PM
Given Boris's performances for the last few games, and the whole season... I thought this was particularly appropriate, and funny:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FSZS6sRVWsk

jpj
12-05-2007, 02:34 PM
Given Boris's performances for the last few games, and the whole season... I thought this was particularly appropriate, and funny:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FSZS6sRVWsk

Haha, I don't think I head that one. Oh Bill Walton, you must have had some of the best drugs growing up! :mrgreen:

Billyjoejimbob
12-05-2007, 02:45 PM
I'm glad they eeked out the win last night, but the bench was crap. They were all passing the ball around to each other like it was a hot potato. Nobody wanted to take a shot. I just wish Boris would grow a set and start finishing plays like he has shown he can. Hopefully Steve's words will fire some guys up.

phnart
12-05-2007, 03:15 PM
I dumped Boris from my fantasy team today....I hope, for the sake of the Suns, it is a move that will come back to haunt me. Somehow, I doubt it.

gladiator
12-05-2007, 04:19 PM
Given Boris's performances for the last few games, and the whole season... I thought this was particularly appropriate, and funny:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FSZS6sRVWsk

Very funny stuff, although it's a terrible analogy from Walton. Everyone knows Beethoven was a ball-hog who never saw a shot he didn't like and never, ever passed the ball (although he would later claim it was because he couldn't hear his teammates calling for it).

INFORMER
12-05-2007, 05:13 PM
I think the Suns ought to take a flyer with a minimum contract for Demetris Nichols.

I agree, but I thought someone already signed him.

INFORMER
12-05-2007, 05:15 PM
And where are all the people that said we'd be 9-11 or whatever 20 games into the season.

Don't know, but I think I said at worst the Suns would be 13-7. Of course no one put that in their sig.

CNY_xplant
12-05-2007, 06:42 PM
I agree, but I thought someone already signed him.

The Cavs waived him after signing Andy.

Wormwood
12-05-2007, 09:33 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=x9p5xr6rnsc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jRJNUueNoao&feature=related

I think whoever this guy is should be on the back of a milk carton. I'm almost ready to drop diaw from my fantasy team too.... I didn' play him tonight, instead opting for David Lee..

tbrkingofthesouth
12-07-2007, 09:24 AM
All the naysayers don't have the balls to post anything!

SwingMan
12-07-2007, 04:40 PM
Huh?

Doris accidentally slips out of his dress one game and all is well?

misteradiant
12-07-2007, 05:00 PM
Huh?

Doris accidentally slips out of his dress one game and all is well?


you haven't gotten to today's game thread yet, have you?

:wink:

SwingMan
12-07-2007, 06:19 PM
you haven't gotten to today's game thread yet, have you?

:wink:

Oh I did indeed, MR - just that I'd already used the restroom and, thus, am fresh out of ammunition..... :wink:

Doris is once again back to status quo - actually, even the thunderrous fingerroll is absent.

Boris, when you're MVP, THAT'S when you can concentrate on cruising skanks. Otherwise, fix your fucking game.....

misteradiant
12-07-2007, 10:48 PM
Oh I did indeed, MR - just that I'd already used the restroom and, thus, am fresh out of ammunition..... :wink:

Doris is once again back to status quo - actually, even the thunderrous fingerroll is absent.

Boris, when you're MVP, THAT'S when you can concentrate on cruising skanks. Otherwise, fix your fucking game.....


hey! wait a second! i'd fuck all of those chicks!

Andy_S
12-08-2007, 12:27 AM
Don't know, but I think I said at worst the Suns would be 13-7. Of course no one put that in their sig.

Including you, but you THINK you said it now...uh huh...

:mrgreen::wink:

Andy_S
12-08-2007, 12:28 AM
The Cavs waived him after signing Andy.

Dude, I'm still with Phoenix.

SwingMan
12-08-2007, 01:44 AM
hey! wait a second! i'd fuck all of those chicks!

Bite your tongue, man - ain't one of those flim-floppers could hold a candle to Bond. Only met her once, but I know enough that they just don't make 'em like her anymore. :cool:

INFORMER
12-08-2007, 01:11 PM
Dude, I'm still with Phoenix.

:shock: REALLY?! I thought you got traded for $125.