Gameday: Suns @ Knicks

[BigLewy]

I will be in attendance at the Garden repping my circa 1993 Suns Starter pullover even though it doesnt fit anymore. I cannot wait to hear the crowd erupt on Isiah. This will hopefully be a laugher.

Suns 113
Knicks 91


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[Uncle_Gene]

Hope you're right !

Suns >>>CAN'T<<< afford to lose this one. They'd be the laughing stock of the league and everyone's power rankings would drop them to the bottom if they lose.

[SwingMan]

That's it - we're losing. Thread too early.....

[triplethreat06]

Amare should not be guarding Randolph at any point during this game. Not likely anyways since he'll be assigned to Curry. Oh lord who's guarding David Lee?? Too many matchup nightmares on paper, but that's all the Knicks have ever been good at. "Theoretically, hypothetically, on paper they should be in the playoffs every year!"

[cap]

Five road games this week. Even against the East, that can take a lot out of you. Hopefully we’ll be able to put this one away early and get the starters some rest. We have a habit of making games interesting when we shouldn’t, but come on, these are the Knicks. They already have three 25+ point losses this season.

[fixxxer]

Suns visit NY. Shellackery ensues!

[Mori_Chu]

There's no way we lose this game. In fact I predict a rare blowout by the Suns. Knicks are that bad.

[ShelC]

We seem to struggle against the Knicks in NY. I hope we come out with energy...we need to jump on them early and take their hearts. Once theyre down big early, they tend to let it snowball but if they stay in striking distance theyre dangerous. This team tends to wake up in the 2nd half so a good start in the 3rd will be crucial.

Dont let Jamal get hot, let steph dominate the ball. Dont give Randolph easy shots but let him score if its there. Hes a volume scorer, so he may get his 25 but itll come on 23 shots. Run the pick and roll against Curry cuz hes a terrible defender on that play. Fred Jones is a slasher whos getting off cuz teams arent preparing for him. He likes to go right and isnt a great pull up shooter. Keep Lee off the boards and take his energy out of the game. They tend to thrive on his and Balks energy. Nate hasnt played the past 2 games so he may be in the doghouse, but watchout for a sneak attack with him. He can get it going and has quietly turned into the Knicks best shooter. Qs been streaky cuz hes not getting consistent looks, but run him off the 3pt line. Let Jeffries shoot every jumper he gets.

[Wormwood]

This game worries me. There's too many bad match ups in it for us.

Nash vs. Marbury is one I don't like, since the really punishing, powerful, big PGs are the ones Nash least likes to play against. Kidd, Marbury, and Billups all made the list when asked who he least liked to play against a few years back.

Marion vs. Randolph: Remember Randolph torching Amare last year? Marion doesn't have the height to cover Randolph's turn around. If Z-Bo hits a couple of these, watch out. They'll go to it over and over again.

Amare vs. Curry: Whoever fouls out last, wins. This isn't a bad match up per se, but geez, I can't envision too many situations where these guys don't neutralize each other with their physical play. They'll bang into each other a lot, and a lot of fouls will be called.

Interior Defense: Which big guy are we going to double on? Curry? Randolph? Our best hope is that the Knicks never figure out how to pass out of a double team, because someone big is going to get open.

Rebounding: This could be really painfull to watch. Curry, Randolph, and Lee going for boards against out rebounding challenged group.

As a side note, how dumb are the Knicks wasting David Lee on the bench? The guy has more heart than anyone on the team except Balkman, and is the least likely on the team to get caught groping secretaries. Or maybe it's just because I have him on my fantasy team.

[ShelC]

Marbury had a neck/shoulder injury in the bucks game and missed the final minutes, which is probably why they won. So he might not be 100% for the game tonight, and ill bet they use that injury as an excuse to use Jamal and Jones more in the backcourt. Isiah is slowly going away from steph and has thrown out any regualr sub patterns. Hes in "save my ass" mode so hes going to play whoevers playing well at the moment. Nates in the doghouse, steph is pretty much there too as is Curry. Double curry early to throw him off and take him out of the game, give Randolph the easy layups so we can get the ball back in bounds quickly and score at the other end. The more we make Curry and Zach run early in the game, the better off we'll be in the 4th.

[Ring_Wanted]

[QUOTE=ShelC;5635The more we make Curry and Zach run early in the game, the better off we'll be in the 4th.[/QUOTE]

As easy (or as hard) as it sound.

[Wormwood]

BTW - Welcome to the board Fixxxer! Having someone in India will help add even more international color to the board (which keeps things interesting). LU, Sunny, Ring_Wanted, NZ_Cloud, England_Sun (and anyone I missed, I apologize) have all added unique perspectives here that add a little je nes se quois.

[jkalldaway]

I just wanted to let you all know that Alando had 25 and 12 in a loss for the Thunderbirds.

[fixxxer]

'Preciate the shoutout, Wormwood. On the game itself... theoretically, we'll prolly take it to them early and not let up till the middle of the 4th. Then, when the game is well out of their reach the great Sean Marks will get some burn, play crappy defense and allow us to bitch about his crappy +/- figures.

If we lose this one, I'm going into full blown panic mode for a couple of hours and enlisting Worm's help to run a regression analysis to isolate Boris Diaw's second X chromosome.

However, despite the tangiable low post advantage that Curry/Randolph hold over Amare/Marion/Diaw, I'm not too worried about the matchup problems that Wormwood alluded to. Curry and Randolph at this point are simply not playing effectively together.

Isiah continues to be almost as terrible a coach as he is a GM. From what I've seen, Randolph basically gets most of his points off of spot up medium range jumpers and rebound/putbacks when Curry's in the game. And neither has the passing ability to be an effective low post duo on the same play.

It's either post one up or the other. When they're posting up Randolph, Curry's completely ineffective, and the former can be double teamed rather pretty effectively. Also, their guards are terrible from the perimeter, and this makes it even tougher for the Curry/Randolph duo to dominate the good guys in the paint.

Prediction: 121-94 and matching oxygen masks for Randolph and Curry at halftime, and the flappity-flap of their man boobs as they attempt to keep up with the Suns.

[Wormwood]

I just wanted to let you all know that Alando had 25 and 12 in a loss for the Thunderbirds.

Is there anywhere we can geta box score on that?

Edit:

http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/20071201/ABQIDA/boxscore.html

[Immortal]

I predict a blowout.

[JediSkywalker]

I predict a blowout.


That is always dangeous..... you are jinxing the Suns.

[illmatic]

Anyone check out nba.com lately?? Tim Duncan went down with a knee injury..

[Wormwood]

Duncan sprains right ankle, bruises knee; will have MRI Monday
Associate Press

Updated: December 2, 2007, 5:18 PM ET
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SAN ANTONIO -- San Antonio Spurs forward Tim Duncan bruised his right knee and sprained his right ankle Sunday in the second quarter of their game against the Portland Trail Blazers.

The team said all of Duncan's ligaments appeared stable but that he would have an MRI on Monday. He was not to return to Sunday's game and the team said he would miss some playing time.

Duncan got caught up with Portland's James Jones and fell to the floor near the Spurs' basket with 7:40 left in the half. He was clutching his knee and had to be helped off the floor by two of his teammates.

Geez... why couldn't Jones do that in the playoffs for us? Like, in game one for instance....

[SunsFan4Life]

Suns 119...Knicks 116

Knicks will give us a fight they always seem to play well against the Better teams in the league at the Garden(Beat the Jazz) But they play horrible D and we'll prevail in the end.

[Superbone]

Are you guys friggin kidding me? 20 posts and no

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[Superbone]

Is there anywhere we can geta box score on that?

Edit:

http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/20071201/ABQIDA/boxscore.html

Wow, Alando was lucky to get out of there without a career ending knee injury. Randy "Friggin" Livingston was on the other team! Get out of basketball already!

[SunsFan4Life]

Good to hear Alando putting up numbers and acually playing as well.

Thanks for the update JK.

[Spanky]

Are you guys friggin kidding me? 20 posts and no

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Gotta give it some time, it is after all, a new layout.

[Immortal]

Are you guys friggin kidding me? 20 posts and no

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It's in the first post 'Bone.

[Superbone]

It's in the first post 'Bone.

Man, how did I miss that?! My appologies.

Suns 137 - Knicks 57

Go Suns!!!

[AlanS]

I don't know what to expect from this Knicks team. They have won 4 of their last 5, or something like that.

On paper, they should be a good team. They have size and depth. But they have a lot of guys who are basically in season long shooting slumps. Consider:
• Randolf - 43.9% FG
• Marbury 41.3%
• Crawford 41.0%
• Q: 30.9% (23.3% on 3s)

If just 1 or 2 of those guys would start making shots - and the talent level of those guys would indicate that should happen sooner or later - the Knicks would be on to something. I don't know if that will happen tonight, but they certainly have shown signs of life lately.

[triplethreat06]

The Knicks will never be a good team because they have no leader. Their best player bails on them before games and their management is a circus freak show.

[gladiator]

Nice first quarter. Just looking at the box score, we must be moving the ball really well. All of our starters have at least one assist - and four to Hill already is a really good sign.

[triplethreat06]

Curry is just a crappy matchup for Amare.

[gladiator]

Any word on why Skinner's not playing? Randolph and Curry are shooting a ridiculous percentage .. they could certainly use his interior d

[triplethreat06]

I can't stand it when a crappy team makes us look foolish on defense

[triplethreat06]

Any word on why Skinner's not playing? Randolph and Curry are shooting a ridiculous percentage .. they could certainly use his interior d

there ya go

[gladiator]

there ya go

Maybe Mike just forgot about him

[jkalldaway]

I don't want to harp on this too much but, why does Amare not get the ball? When he gets it good things happen. It's like the team is playing keep away from him.

[triplethreat06]

I don't want to harp on this too much but, why does Amare not get the ball? When he gets it good things happen. It's like the team is playing keep away from him.

The ball is moving but Amare isn't.

[triplethreat06]

The Knicks are so silly, Randolph gets all messed up about Raja's foul and Marbury leaping into Q's arms after a three pointer while the game is in transition. I can't take this team seriously. I don't expect this to be close in the 4th

[DrSublime]

Nash is shooting kinda poorly so far... blech.

[triplethreat06]

god i LOVE having Hill out there when Nash is sitting

[AlanS]

The line-up with Hill at SG, and LB, Skinner, Diaw, and Marion was a revelation. There was good defense and defensive rebounding... it totally took the Knix out of their pound-it-down-low game.

Of course, that wasn't a line-up that ran a lot. Perhaps D'Antoni is flexible after all.

[triplethreat06]

Skinner is just frustrating Curry to madness

[SunsFan4Life]

Good 4th quarter.

Seeing Hill More and More I keep thinking how he is gonna be such a big help particularly against the Spurs.

The Spurs take away Raja and LB at the 3pt line but Hill's bread and butter is the midrange...also you would think they'd put Bowen on him but with Bowen Glued to nash who covers Hill? Robert Horry?

Great Game. Skinner is the man. I love how he runs the floor a few times he even beat Amare down there!

[y2jjedipimp]

The Kinicks are a piece of shit team...Randolph firing up 3's...Isiah fire yourself already...
Pike gets some Pt tonight....thats great except we have a rookie riding the pine everynight whos hungry for PT...

Skinner looked good as usual...a few good blocks again...not sure why Mike didint play him in teh first half.

Tucker's D-League performance doesnt really warrant him being there...youre telling me he shouldnt be a back up to Marion or Hill? yeah he didnt hit the 3 ball but he did everything else.

Next game at Indiana....Ill be there

[desertcoast]

The line-up with Hill at SG, and LB, Skinner, Diaw, and Marion was a revelation. There was good defense and defensive rebounding... it totally took the Knix out of their pound-it-down-low game.

Of course, that wasn't a line-up that ran a lot. Perhaps D'Antoni is flexible after all.

I'm re-reading this to grasp the true meaning and possible future implications......:)

[AlanS]

That was a fun game to watch, and was notable for Hill's heroics in the 4th qtr. The "makeshift' line-up of Hill, Matrix, Diaw, BArbosa and Skinner was so effective, Nash, Bell and Amare were able to get a good rest in at the start of the 4th qtr. When those guys went back in, the Suns were able to just cruise through the end of the game. It seemed to me like the team were just playing out the clock, not trying to run up the score... a sympathetic move against a Knix team that was getting booed with chants like "fire Isiah."

[Wormwood]

My thoughts on the game:

* Dan Majerle was asked by the Knicks commentators what he thougt of the Knicks. He was refreshingly brutal. He called the yteam a mess, said the offcourt stuff was going to haunt them until they traded or fired someone, and that they were going to be a bad team until some changes were made. I don't think he's getting invited back onto the MSG network again for a commentator switch.

* Amare was a ball stopper, and his defense was awful. Big athletic guys like Curry, K. Brown, and Bynum bother Amare. Still, Amare put up the quietest 28 points I've seen him accumulate. Did it on 12-17 shooting with 12 rebounds. It's the oddest thing. Amare can do so much right, but it's just not clicking defensively for him.

* Marion was indeed somewhat overwhelmed by Randolph. Randolph, Lee, and Curry mean a tough night for a SF playing out of position at PF.

* Pike still couldn't guard a chair with a broken leg. On a night where all we needed to win was to get some stops he wasn't helping at all. On top of that he's hesitant to shoot. He skipped on open three pointers twice because his trigger isn't quick enough. Please, could we see DJ? Hell, at this point I might even say Banks. Yes, that's right, I think I'd rather have Banks out there than Pike. When Pike hits the floor, the average age of our players on the court is dead.

* I criticize D'ANtoni sometimes, but I don't think I'm in the same category as those espn boards ass clowns who think he's responsible for every loss, injury, the massacre in Darfur, AIDS, tornadoes, that crud that accumulates under your refridgerator.... but I do have a beef with him tonight. WHy the heck did he wait so long to bring SKinner in? Skinner's bulk, athleticism, and balls to the wall aggressiveness were the reason we got stops in the 4th and made this a laugher. BK is my player of the game. It might not show up in the box score, but he made a huge difference in the post where we were getting killed.

Now, in Mike's defense Skinner played the whole 4th quarter, and deservedly so. However, going smaller isn't always the answer. It took Mike 3 quarters to figure this one out, when I believe most coaches wouldn't have taken half that. If guys are beating the hell out of you in the post the solution would seem to get some better post defense, not a healthy dose of Boris Diaw and his very well developed sense of apathy. I know you have a smaller is better philosophy, but trust me, Skinner hustles up and down th court faster than Diaw, is just as likely to shoot, and isn't a bad passer.

* I am so out of patience with Diaw. I thought for sure he'd be back this year. Wrong. I want to cry when I go back and watch my old tapes of the 2005-2006 season.

* Good win tonight, we did what we needed to (eventually). Steve's elbow looked to be bothering him, but he kept the offense going and racked up 37 assists as a team. Grant Hill was phenomenal. 28 points, 8 rebs, 7 assists. Good golly Miss Molly, it's 1995 again! Seriously though, his role on the team is a bit like that of JJax's in 2004-2005.

* There's still something not quite right going on with this team. No way we can be title contenders and have the Knicks in a position to steal one after 3 quarters. We should be Bosoning teams right now if we have title aspirations. RIght now, we've got some dead wood on the team that's not giving us our money's worth. Ever wonder what the 12 million dollars invested in Diaw and Banks could buy?

[jkalldaway]

My thoughts on the game:

* Dan Majerle was asked by the Knicks commentators what he thougt of the Knicks. He was refreshingly brutal. He called the yteam a mess, said the offcourt stuff was going to haunt them until they traded or fired someone, and that they were going to be a bad team until some changes were made. I don't think he's getting invited back onto the MSG network again for a commentator switch.

* Amare was a ball stopper, and his defense was awful. Big athletic guys like Curry, K. Brown, and Bynum bother Amare. Still, Amare put up the quietest 28 points I've seen him accumulate. Did it on 12-17 shooting with 12 rebounds. It's the oddest thing. Amare can do so much right, but it's just not clicking defensively for him.

* Marion was indeed somewhat overwhelmed by Randolph. Randolph, Lee, and Curry mean a tough night for a SF playing out of position at PF.

* Pike still couldn't guard a chair with a broken leg. On a night where all we needed to win was to get some stops he wasn't helping at all. On top of that he's hesitant to shoot. He skipped on open three pointers twice because his trigger isn't quick enough. Please, could we see DJ? Hell, at this point I might even say Banks. Yes, that's right, I think I'd rather have Banks out there than Pike. When Pike hits the floor, the average age of our players on the court is dead.

* I criticize D'ANtoni sometimes, but I don't think I'm in the same category as those espn boards ass clowns who think he's responsible for every loss, injury, the massacre in Darfur, AIDS, tornadoes, that crud that accumulates under your refridgerator.... but I do have a beef with him tonight. WHy the heck did he wait so long to bring SKinner in? Skinner's bulk, athleticism, and balls to the wall aggressiveness were the reason we got stops in the 4th and made this a laugher. BK is my player of the game. It might not show up in the box score, but he made a huge difference in the post where we were getting killed.

Now, in Mike's defense Skinner played the whole 4th quarter, and deservedly so. However, going smaller isn't always the answer. It took Mike 3 quarters to figure this one out, when I believe most coaches wouldn't have taken half that. If guys are beating the hell out of you in the post the solution would seem to get some better post defense, not a healthy dose of Boris Diaw and his very well developed sense of apathy. I know you have a smaller is better philosophy, but trust me, Skinner hustles up and down th court faster than Diaw, is just as likely to shoot, and isn't a bad passer.

* I am so out of patience with Diaw. I thought for sure he'd be back this year. Wrong. I want to cry when I go back and watch my old tapes of the 2005-2006 season.

* Good win tonight, we did what we needed to (eventually). Steve's elbow looked to be bothering him, but he kept the offense going and racked up 37 assists as a team. Grant Hill was phenomenal. 28 points, 8 rebs, 7 assists. Good golly Miss Molly, it's 1995 again! Seriously though, his role on the team is a bit like that of JJax's in 2004-2005.

* There's still something not quite right going on with this team. No way we can be title contenders and have the Knicks in a position to steal one after 3 quarters. We should be Bosoning teams right now if we have title aspirations. RIght now, we've got some dead wood on the team that's not giving us our money's worth. Ever wonder what the 12 million dollars invested in Diaw and Banks could buy?

Worm, how was Amare a ball stopper? I only saw one play and that was where he was on the left wing with the ball and could not make a decision until he got stripped by q. Otherwise he finished quickly on secondary breaks (often a dunk) or immediately pulled up for a jumper (several top of the key as well as the lone three pointer in the 1st). I saw a lot of Amare moving to one side while the ball rotated to the other side often resulting in him not getting a touch. While you say it was the quietest 28, I say it the the most efficient being that his touches were hard to come by.

[jkalldaway]

Oh, and on your comment about the Suns not being title contenders because we aren't "bosoning" teams. Keep in mind that at this time last year San Antonio lost to the likes of Milwaukee, got killed by Houston, lost to the Lakers, and barely beat Sacramento. Settle down, we saw what happens when a team peaks in December, the team will be fine. Oh yeah, we are right behind SA right now for best in the west standings-wise and with Duncan going down, we will soon be in first.

[Wormwood]

jk,

There were about three times where Amare got it on the left block and just held it, and held it. I'd have to go back and review it to confirm the times and numbers, though. One of them was indeed the one with Q, another one happened ad I had to rewind the TiVo to see why he didn't get a 3 second violation. (He was just outside the lane). It just seemed like he was holding the ball too long.

As for thequiet comment, he got the points and boards, but it didn't feel dominating. Still, he got them, we won by 10+, so you can't slam anyone (other that the wholly ineffective Diaw).

[JediSkywalker]

Oh, and on your comment about the Suns not being title contenders because we aren't "bosoning" teams. Keep in mind that at this time last year San Antonio lost to the likes of Milwaukee, got killed by Houston, lost to the Lakers, and barely beat Sacramento. Settle down, we saw what happens when a team peaks in December, the team will be fine. Oh yeah, we are right behind SA right now for best in the west standings-wise and with Duncan going down, we will soon be in first.


But those were the Spurs. They always peak toward the end of the season, and they go 10-11 deep so they have that many players ready to play. I don't see that happening with the Suns, esp. this team. They are injured, tired and apathetical. Who cares if the Suns are #1 in December?

Nice win regardless. In the 3rd Q I thought it was going to be like GSW again, but (fortunately for the Suns) the Knicks have too many problems. Grant Hill and Brian Skinner proved once again that they were excellent off season signings. Now if Dantoni was willing to play Skinner more, we may even have an answer for the Spurs (I know I am exaggerating, but after losing KT I had given up on this team and Skinner proved me partially wrong).

[torres]

The Knicks got tired by the 4th quarter and couldn't keep up with the Suns towards the end. They let Hill go off. Crowd turned on the Knicks quick as well, that never helps. I swear, sometimes it's kind of like home court disadvantage at MSG.

[BigLewy]

It is close to 1am and I just got back from the game-boy do I love New England weather. Anyways, I will post a few quick thoughts on the game since I have to be at work in 5 hours and dont feel like typing anything lengthy,

First, it was a pleasure meeting up with ShelC, seems like a great guy. Thanks for the free Knicks gear, my buddies will love it.

*Marion botched a bunch of layups that he usually hits, might have been an off night.

*Pike got abused by Q on that crossover. I had joked with my Knicks fan friend who came with me that he couldnt guard a chair and when Q torched him, he shook his head and laughed.

*Grant Hill is just amazing, nothing else to say except please dont get hurt.

*Diaw had a few nice passes, but I forgot he was out there a lot of the time.

*Stevie missed a few open 3s which was funny because the crowd groaned every time he had a clear look.

*Brian Skinner is the F'ing man. Those fat asses couldnt do anything against him and his block on Lee was awesome

*Raja was solid and Barbs was decent for the most part.

*The crowd hates Marbury, he gets booed constantly. The fire Isiah chant at the end made my night.

I will watch the game on Tivo tomorrow to look for anything else I might have missed. So far, the Suns are undefeated when I attend a game, too bad there arent more games closer to me.

[JediSkywalker]

It is close to 1am and I just got back from the game-boy do I love New England weather. Anyways, I will post a few quick thoughts on the game since I have to be at work in 5 hours and dont feel like typing anything lengthy,

First, it was a pleasure meeting up with ShelC, seems like a great guy. Thanks for the free Knicks gear, my buddies will love it.

*Marion botched a bunch of layups that he usually hits, might have been an off night.

*Pike got abused by Q on that crossover. I had joked with my Knicks fan friend who came with me that he couldnt guard a chair and when Q torched him, he shook his head and laughed.

*Grant Hill is just amazing, nothing else to say except please dont get hurt.

*Diaw had a few nice passes, but I forgot he was out there a lot of the time.

*Stevie missed a few open 3s which was funny because the crowd groaned every time he had a clear look.

*Brian Skinner is the F'ing man. Those fat asses couldnt do anything against him and his block on Lee was awesome

*Raja was solid and Barbs was decent for the most part.

*The crowd hates Marbury, he gets booed constantly. The fire Isiah chant at the end made my night.

I will watch the game on Tivo tomorrow to look for anything else I might have missed. So far, the Suns are undefeated when I attend a game, too bad there arent more games closer to me.

May be the Suns should fly you over to their playoff games, esp. against the Spurs :)

Thanks for the nice recap.

[Mori_Chu]

Good win. My main concern is that Nash looks like hell out there. Have you guys noticed that he is mostly dribbling with his left hand lately? Must be to take the pressure off his tweaked right elbow. Poor Stevie; he's a warrior.

Raja Bell remains my favorite Sun (with Stevie second and Grant Hill third). I love it when Raja nails a 3 early in the game; I know then that he's in for a good night. When he is on, so many good things happen for us. Skinner and Hill are looking like spectacular additions; I knew they'd fit in here.

I still wish for the same things. That Diaw would wake up. That Coach would curb the minutes and put Banks back in the rotation. And so on. But it was a good win, and we move on.

[Dustbuster]

I wonder what would happen if Diaw got a few DNP-CD's? Would that light a fire under him? Would anything at this point? I seriously think that he is the one player that should have a minimum number of shots that he has to take every game, including a number in the paint (at least 4-5), and should have incentives for dunks.

[ShelC]

DNP-CDs probably wouldnt mean anything to Boris and it would only hurt our depth upfront and his value around the league. I think a couple of guys (Raja and Stevie) need to get in his face and let him know what he needs to do, like they used to in 05-06. 2 years ago i remember reading that the coaches and players would have to keep reminding him to stay aggressive and that he should be looking to dunk the ball when hes that close to the basket cuz he never used to dunk. Its a little childish to have to stay on a grown man so he plays well, but if it works then we gotta go back to it.

[Wormwood]

Right now, Boris and Banks are 13 million in dead weight on our salary cap. Would you rather have Diaw, or KT right now? Keep in mind ole' broken down KT is averaging 11 rpg over the past 4 games....

[Mori_Chu]

Would you rather have Diaw, or KT right now?

I'd still rather have Diaw. He still has the potential and shows flashes of greatness. KT wouldn't be getting burn here and is probably close to being washed up.

[BigLewy]

After I re-watched the game, Boris actually wasnt too bad. He had a few really nice passes, one of which went went through Pike's hands. Maybe it is just the eternal optimist in me, but I think he did a good job of facilitating the offense. I think I saw one or two times when he typically passed up an open look, but he wasnt open to score for the most part.

Majerle was hilarious basically saying the Knicks suck and have no hope. His allusion to Zach being a black hole was good too, basically hinting at Zach being the key reason the team stinks.

I did notice a few instances where it seemed Shawn might have been a little annoyed/pouting. I might be reading too much into it, but the one play I can specifically recall, and I even noticed it at the game, was late in the 4th when Amare had the and 1, Shawn just stood there with his hands on his hips looking frustrated. Hopefully it is nothing major.

Anyways, it was an awesome experience and I cant wait for Knicks-Suns next year.